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Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by Jonathan Kudelka on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 1:22 am

On June 7 Gary was interviewed by Fox News reporter Tucker Carlson:
“You’ve said as a Libertarian that you believe people can make personal decisions without interference from the state, and that’s why you support gay marriage,” Carlson said. “And yet, there are many, many, millions of people in this country whose religion either allows or commands them to take more than one spouse under polygamy. That’s a felony. If you marry the mothers of your various children, you get charged with a felony.”
QUESTION: "Are you for legalizing Polygamy?"

Gary's response: "Polygamy is a states issue."

Gary is not a Libertarian he lost my vote

I endorse Trump

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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by fromthepast on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 7:07 am

If it wasn't Hillary running against Trump, then I'd vote for Johnson.

But we literally cannot have a CRIMINAL in the WH
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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by NervaFan on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 7:11 am

We have to support him. Both Clinton and Trump are either evil or incompetent... or some mixture of the two
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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by fromthepast on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 7:11 am

NervaFan wrote:We have to support him. Both Clinton and Trump are either evil or incompetent... or some mixture of the two
Who took money from the Saudis?

It was Clinton, if I recall correctly
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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by NervaFan on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 7:12 am

fromthepast wrote:
NervaFan wrote:We have to support him. Both Clinton and Trump are either evil or incompetent... or some mixture of the two
Who took money from the Saudis?

It was Clinton, if I recall correctly
Remember this?

Trump had to get bailed out by Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal
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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by fromthepast on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 7:13 am

NervaFan wrote:
fromthepast wrote:
NervaFan wrote:We have to support him. Both Clinton and Trump are either evil or incompetent... or some mixture of the two
Who took money from the Saudis?

It was Clinton, if I recall correctly
Remember this?

Trump had to get bailed out by Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal
At least it was on a business project and not shady deals
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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by NervaFan on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 7:16 am

fromthepast wrote:
NervaFan wrote:
fromthepast wrote:
NervaFan wrote:We have to support him. Both Clinton and Trump are either evil or incompetent... or some mixture of the two
Who took money from the Saudis?

It was Clinton, if I recall correctly
Remember this?

Trump had to get bailed out by Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal
At least it was on a business project and not shady deals
You do realise that Trump also relies on financing from Russian oligarchs, no?
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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by fromthepast on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 7:16 am

NervaFan wrote:
fromthepast wrote:
NervaFan wrote:
fromthepast wrote:
NervaFan wrote:We have to support him. Both Clinton and Trump are either evil or incompetent... or some mixture of the two
Who took money from the Saudis?

It was Clinton, if I recall correctly
Remember this?

Trump had to get bailed out by Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal
At least it was on a business project and not shady deals
You do realise that Trump also relies on financing from Russian oligarchs, no?
How is Gary any better?
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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by NervaFan on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 7:18 am

fromthepast wrote:
NervaFan wrote:
fromthepast wrote:
NervaFan wrote:
fromthepast wrote:
NervaFan wrote:We have to support him. Both Clinton and Trump are either evil or incompetent... or some mixture of the two
Who took money from the Saudis?

It was Clinton, if I recall correctly
Remember this?

Trump had to get bailed out by Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal
At least it was on a business project and not shady deals
You do realise that Trump also relies on financing from Russian oligarchs, no?
How is Gary any better?
His company, Big J Enterprises, did not rely on funding from Russian oligarchs or Saudi royalty
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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by fromthepast on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 7:20 am

NervaFan wrote:
fromthepast wrote:
NervaFan wrote:
fromthepast wrote:
NervaFan wrote:
fromthepast wrote:
NervaFan wrote:We have to support him. Both Clinton and Trump are either evil or incompetent... or some mixture of the two
Who took money from the Saudis?

It was Clinton, if I recall correctly
Remember this?

Trump had to get bailed out by Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal
At least it was on a business project and not shady deals
You do realise that Trump also relies on financing from Russian oligarchs, no?
How is Gary any better?
His company, Big J Enterprises, did not rely on funding from Russian oligarchs or Saudi royalty
Yeah but it was a flop company
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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by NervaFan on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 7:21 am

fromthepast wrote:
NervaFan wrote:
fromthepast wrote:
NervaFan wrote:
fromthepast wrote:
NervaFan wrote:
fromthepast wrote:
NervaFan wrote:We have to support him. Both Clinton and Trump are either evil or incompetent... or some mixture of the two
Who took money from the Saudis?

It was Clinton, if I recall correctly
Remember this?

Trump had to get bailed out by Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal
At least it was on a business project and not shady deals
You do realise that Trump also relies on financing from Russian oligarchs, no?
How is Gary any better?
His company, Big J Enterprises, did not rely on funding from Russian oligarchs or Saudi royalty
Yeah but it was a flop company
It was the largest construction company in New Mexico by the early 1990s.
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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by cycheah on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 7:34 am

Voting for Gary just means that you support Hillary!

Don't fall for it. It's a democratic plot to give her the election
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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by 4intheair on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 7:35 am

cycheah wrote:Voting for Gary just means that you support Hillary!

Don't fall for it. It's a democratic plot to give her the election
(Incomplete) list of people Hillary Clinton does not support:

  • Gary Johnson
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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by Baronic on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 7:52 am

You missing point

If you want the political system to change, you cant keep electing those who maintain it
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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by firstpass on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 7:58 am

Baronic wrote:You missing point

If you want the political system to change, you cant keep electing those who maintain it

This

They can't just keep electing people in the 2 party system
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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by 1009line on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 8:00 am

firstpass wrote:
Baronic wrote:You missing point

If you want the political system to change, you cant keep electing those who maintain it

This

They can't just keep electing people in the 2 party system

We can wait an election or two for that.

Right now, we must stop someone who knowingly got 5 people murdered from getting into office.

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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by firstpass on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 8:00 am

1009pass wrote:
firstpass wrote:
Baronic wrote:You missing point

If you want the political system to change, you cant keep electing those who maintain it

This

They can't just keep electing people in the 2 party system

We can wait an election or two for that.

Right now, we must stop someone who knowingly got 5 people murdered from getting into office.
And then in 2020 there will be someone worse
Then in 2024 someone else you just can't have become president

The cycle never ends
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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by firstpass on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 8:02 am

Jonathan Kudelka wrote:On June 7 Gary was interviewed by Fox News reporter Tucker Carlson:
“You’ve said as a Libertarian that you believe people can make personal decisions without interference from the state, and that’s why you support gay marriage,” Carlson said. “And yet, there are many, many, millions of people in this country whose religion either allows or commands them to take more than one spouse under polygamy. That’s a felony. If you marry the mothers of your various children, you get charged with a felony.”
QUESTION: "Are you for legalizing Polygamy?"

Gary's response: "Polygamy is a states issue."

Gary is not a Libertarian he lost my vote

I endorse Trump
Think about this logically

If Gary isn't a libertarian because he thinks polygamy should be a state decision, then how is Trump one if he probably want it banned at the federal level like it is now
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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by 1009line on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 8:07 am

firstpass wrote:
Jonathan Kudelka wrote:On June 7 Gary was interviewed by Fox News reporter Tucker Carlson:
“You’ve said as a Libertarian that you believe people can make personal decisions without interference from the state, and that’s why you support gay marriage,” Carlson said. “And yet, there are many, many, millions of people in this country whose religion either allows or commands them to take more than one spouse under polygamy. That’s a felony. If you marry the mothers of your various children, you get charged with a felony.”
QUESTION: "Are you for legalizing Polygamy?"

Gary's response: "Polygamy is a states issue."

Gary is not a Libertarian he lost my vote

I endorse Trump
Think about this logically

If Gary isn't a libertarian because he thinks polygamy should be a state decision, then how is Trump one if he probably want it banned at the federal level like it is now
The point is that even though most people want a libertarian.

If Johnson was an actual libertarian, that'd be a reason to choose him over Trump.

Since he isn't, might as well vote for Trump, as that keeps Hillary out of the White House.

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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by firstpass on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 8:08 am

1009pass wrote:
firstpass wrote:
Jonathan Kudelka wrote:On June 7 Gary was interviewed by Fox News reporter Tucker Carlson:
“You’ve said as a Libertarian that you believe people can make personal decisions without interference from the state, and that’s why you support gay marriage,” Carlson said. “And yet, there are many, many, millions of people in this country whose religion either allows or commands them to take more than one spouse under polygamy. That’s a felony. If you marry the mothers of your various children, you get charged with a felony.”
QUESTION: "Are you for legalizing Polygamy?"

Gary's response: "Polygamy is a states issue."

Gary is not a Libertarian he lost my vote

I endorse Trump
Think about this logically

If Gary isn't a libertarian because he thinks polygamy should be a state decision, then how is Trump one if he probably want it banned at the federal level like it is now
The point is that even though most people want a libertarian.

If Johnson was an actual libertarian, that'd be a reason to choose him over Trump.

Since he isn't, might as well vote for Trump, as that keeps Hillary out of the White House.
But Johnson is more libertarian than Trump so why wouldn't you choose him

He isn't perfect, but he's still okay
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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by 1009line on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 8:09 am

firstpass wrote:
1009pass wrote:
firstpass wrote:
Jonathan Kudelka wrote:On June 7 Gary was interviewed by Fox News reporter Tucker Carlson:
“You’ve said as a Libertarian that you believe people can make personal decisions without interference from the state, and that’s why you support gay marriage,” Carlson said. “And yet, there are many, many, millions of people in this country whose religion either allows or commands them to take more than one spouse under polygamy. That’s a felony. If you marry the mothers of your various children, you get charged with a felony.”
QUESTION: "Are you for legalizing Polygamy?"

Gary's response: "Polygamy is a states issue."

Gary is not a Libertarian he lost my vote

I endorse Trump
Think about this logically

If Gary isn't a libertarian because he thinks polygamy should be a state decision, then how is Trump one if he probably want it banned at the federal level like it is now
The point is that even though most people want a libertarian.

If Johnson was an actual libertarian, that'd be a reason to choose him over Trump.

Since he isn't, might as well vote for Trump, as that keeps Hillary out of the White House.
But Johnson is more libertarian than Trump so why wouldn't you choose him

He isn't perfect, but he's still okay
Then we are literally choosing the lesser of three evils, but only one of those evils can keep the most evil of them all, Hillary Clinton, from becoming POTUS.

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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by firstpass on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 8:19 am

1009pass wrote:
firstpass wrote:
1009pass wrote:
firstpass wrote:
Jonathan Kudelka wrote:On June 7 Gary was interviewed by Fox News reporter Tucker Carlson:
“You’ve said as a Libertarian that you believe people can make personal decisions without interference from the state, and that’s why you support gay marriage,” Carlson said. “And yet, there are many, many, millions of people in this country whose religion either allows or commands them to take more than one spouse under polygamy. That’s a felony. If you marry the mothers of your various children, you get charged with a felony.”
QUESTION: "Are you for legalizing Polygamy?"

Gary's response: "Polygamy is a states issue."

Gary is not a Libertarian he lost my vote

I endorse Trump
Think about this logically

If Gary isn't a libertarian because he thinks polygamy should be a state decision, then how is Trump one if he probably want it banned at the federal level like it is now
The point is that even though most people want a libertarian.

If Johnson was an actual libertarian, that'd be a reason to choose him over Trump.

Since he isn't, might as well vote for Trump, as that keeps Hillary out of the White House.
But Johnson is more libertarian than Trump so why wouldn't you choose him

He isn't perfect, but he's still okay
Then we are literally choosing the lesser of three evils, but only one of those evils can keep the most evil of them all, Hillary Clinton, from becoming POTUS.
Gary isn't evil though
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Re: Gary Johnson not a Libertarian

Post by 1009line on Mon 08 Aug 2016, 8:19 am

firstpass wrote:
1009pass wrote:
firstpass wrote:
1009pass wrote:
firstpass wrote:
Jonathan Kudelka wrote:On June 7 Gary was interviewed by Fox News reporter Tucker Carlson:
“You’ve said as a Libertarian that you believe people can make personal decisions without interference from the state, and that’s why you support gay marriage,” Carlson said. “And yet, there are many, many, millions of people in this country whose religion either allows or commands them to take more than one spouse under polygamy. That’s a felony. If you marry the mothers of your various children, you get charged with a felony.”
QUESTION: "Are you for legalizing Polygamy?"

Gary's response: "Polygamy is a states issue."

Gary is not a Libertarian he lost my vote

I endorse Trump
Think about this logically

If Gary isn't a libertarian because he thinks polygamy should be a state decision, then how is Trump one if he probably want it banned at the federal level like it is now
The point is that even though most people want a libertarian.

If Johnson was an actual libertarian, that'd be a reason to choose him over Trump.

Since he isn't, might as well vote for Trump, as that keeps Hillary out of the White House.
But Johnson is more libertarian than Trump so why wouldn't you choose him

He isn't perfect, but he's still okay
Then we are literally choosing the lesser of three evils, but only one of those evils can keep the most evil of them all, Hillary Clinton, from becoming POTUS.
Gary isn't evil though
He is if you are actually a libertarian.

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